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5/11/2010 10:34:00 AM
Clerk of courts reprimanded for having sex in the courthouse
Sheriff’s deputy resigns for involvement
Oneida County Sheriff's Department deputy Steve Ramm was forced to resign from the department effective March 16 after he admitted to having sex multiple times with the county clerk of courts Gina Olson while he was on duty, in uniform and in the county courthouse.

Oneida County Branch II judge Mark Mangerson issued a press release Friday that reported Olson had received a public reprimand for conduct unbecoming a clerk of courts and improper use of public facilities for her involvement in the incidents that brought about Ramm's forced resignation.

The reprimand letter was signed by Mangerson and fellow county judge Patrick O'Melia.

In the news release, the judges said Olson revealed to them that "she had been having an affair for several years with a sheriff's deputy in the courthouse complex. In addition to that revelation the judges said they had also received a letter from Ramm's wife requesting that they consider removing Olson from office.

Both Ramm and Olson were married at the time of the multiple incidents.

Olson told The Lakeland Times Friday she still plans to run for election to her post in the November general election.

Meanwhile, Ramm is serving in the U.S. military and has been deployed elsewhere.

Mangerson and O'Melia said in the release, "we thoroughly had researched the issue and determined that Sec. 17.10(4), Wis. Stats., applied that we could legally remove her 'at our pleasure.'"

The judges are referring the matter to the Labor Relations/Employee Service Committee and corporation counsel for any additional discipline the county deems appropriate.

Reasons for non-removal

Mangerson and O'Melia said they chose not to remove Olson from office for a number of reasons.

• The sole complainant, the deputy's wife, originally requested removal but has recently indicated that her goal had been achieved by disclosure of the complicity of Olson. It was her desire that her husband not bear the consequences alone.

• "We recognize that removal of a public official from office is severe discipline which should be reserved for the most serious incidents of malfeasance or nonfeasance in performance of official duties. Ms. Olson's indiscretions did not occur during working hours and had no impact on the operations of her office, service to individual citizens or the integrity of files and records."

• Her removal from office would work a great hardship on the operation of the courts, especially when a deputy clerk's position goes unfilled. Removal of Olson at this time would result in a severe curtailment of services to the public and the need to implement emergency plans to continue proper functioning of the court.

• "The conduct of Ms. Olson and the deputy is certainly reprehensible, however we must recognize that the individuals cooperated fully and candidly in the investigation once their conduct had been revealed. Ms. Olson personally informed her entire office staff and both judges of her imprudent conduct and has cooperated fully in our investigation."

The judges further stated that they "recognized that virtually all of the liaisons occurred at a time when Ms. Olson was not clerk of courts and would have been subject to discipline through the regular procedures for any county employee."

Olson was appointed clerk of courts in June 2009.

Because Olson has stated she plans to run for election in November and "since her indiscretions did not impact performance of her duties and more properly judged on moral grounds, we leave that judgment up to the electorate."

Times sought records in case

The Lakeland Times learned of Ramm's forced resignation instead of termination in April and filed an open records request with the sheriff's department seeking copies of all records and reports connected with any discipline ordered for Ramm. Details of the long ongoing relationship between Ramm and Olson were provided in the records The Times received Friday.

Olson told The Times Friday she apologized "for the poor choices I have made" and that she considered the matter "concluded."

She said the matter dealt with personal issues and would say no more. She did say that none of the incidents of sex with Ramm occurred while she was supposed to be on the job.

The documents received by The Times indicated that Ramm and Olson did have sex in a closet in a security office in the courthouse during the noon hour. One report stated that Olson told investigators that she "did have sexual activity with Ramm in the sally port that did not include intercourse."

One of the reports quoted Olson as telling investigators that she had sexual intercourse or relations with deputy Ramm while he was on duty at somewhere under 20 times.

When he was questioned, Ramm told investigators he believed he could have had sexual intercourse or relations with Olson at least 20 to 25 times - many of those times in the courthouse and a few times after 4:30 at Olson's home near the end of his shift at about 7:15 p.m. Both told investigators they never had sex in a department squad car, but Ramm had driven a marked squad car on one of the occasions they had sex at her home.

Ramm told investigators he would also meet with Olson at another location for sexual activities where she had been working a second job doing cleaning.

Investigation began March 10

According to a detective bureau supplemental report provided to The Lakeland Times, Ramm was under investigation for willful neglect of duty, willful neglect or disobedience of an order or department rule, conduct unbecoming an officer and general inefficiency and incompetence. He was at first placed on suspension, but later signed an agreement of voluntary resignation instead of termination.

The report indicated that Lt. Jim Wood had learned of the allegations regarding Ramm March 10, 2010. He conducted an interview with Ramm March 12 in a private room at Fort McCoy where Ramm was on active military duty.

Ramm answers questions

Ramm, according to the report, had started with the department in February 2001. His first duty assignment was at the courthouse.

Ramm said his relationship with Olson began after he said that Olson mentioned to him at a courthouse Christmas party that she wanted to have sex with him. He said he told her then that he did not want to have sex with her.

Ramm stated that a couple of days or even a couple of weeks later he wanted to talk to Olson to clear the air with her. Deputy Ramm stated that "things then escalated with her and their first incident during this talk turned into kissing and fondling."

Ramm told investigators he believed his first sexual activity with Olson was about seven or eight months after he started his courthouse duty. Ramm told investigators that incidents took place with Olson in the security office of the courthouse and that he let Olson into that office through the Branch II courtroom door. He also said he could not remember if the first incident occurred either during the lunch hour or at the end of the courthouse hours.

Ramm told investigators after the first incident involved fondling and kissing then it turned to oral sex in the security office. Ramm also told investigators that during many of the incidents he had his uniform on and his gun belt off or on and was on duty. Ramm also told investigators he believed he had oral sex in the security office with Olson about 20 times both during the noon hour or after the courthouse closed but in the court security office.

According to the report, Ramm said that typically they would engage in sexual activity in the security office and the restroom off of the Branch I jury room.

When asked whether as the result of his activities with Olson that he had incurred overtime, Ramm said it did not cause him to incur overtime, but admitted that he did not adjust his time sheet to reflect the time he spent having sex with Olson while on the job.

Committee to discuss Olson

Oneida County coordinator John Potters told The Lakeland Times Friday that after he was given a copy of the letter detailing the judges' action against Olson that the matter will now be forwarded to the county's Labor Relations/Employee Services Committee to allow them to determine if they should take any further action against Olson.

"We have to look into this further because of the seriousness of the nature," Potters said. "We'll have to see what state statutes say about further discipline. This is a unique situation. We've never had to deal with anything like this before."

Board chairman reacts

Oneida County board chairman Ted Cushing told The Times that "When I learned of the incidents I couldn't believe it."

Cushing said an emergency meeting of the Employee Services/Labor Relations Committee was scheduled to be held Monday morning (yesterday) to discuss the matter.

Cushing also said that he technically considers an elected county official to be on the job the entire time they are in the courthouse during regular business hours even if they are on their lunch break.

"I don't think it's over yet," Cushing said. "We'll see how it plays out. There are a lot of things that I don't know about this but I will find out about for sure."

Joe VanDeLaarschot can be reached at jvandelaarschot@lakelandtimes.com.



Reader Comments

Posted: Friday, May 14, 2010
Article comment by: Jerry

Way too graphic! Is there any decency in how you present things? The kids are the ones harmed in this. They will be ridiculed and teased for the actions of the parents who are the ones who made the mistakes. Way to go for putting yourself on a pedestal by "revealing" other's dirty laundry. You should congratulate yourselves.

Posted: Friday, May 14, 2010
Article comment by: The Eye of the Hodag

The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments posted in a courthouse is this -- you cannot post 'Thou Shalt Not Steal' 'Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery' and 'Thou Shall Not Lie' in a building full of lawyers, judges and politicians ... It creates a hostile work environment.

Posted: Friday, May 14, 2010
Article comment by: Jim

Oh you people.....dont you see the paper is trash...but it is not done....now it will turn into an attack on the judges and other people in authority...because of publishers conspiracy theory of the good ol boys....lets see how many "stories" they can get...from this thread

Posted: Thursday, May 13, 2010
Article comment by: DG

Keep digging JOE, I think there is more to this than what you've been told. Use your snitches and do some serious digging

Posted: Thursday, May 13, 2010
Article comment by: D S

Oh I don't know, if it wasn't sex for Bill clinton why is it sex now? I have no doubt that the good people of Oneida county will re-elect her by a landslide

Posted: Thursday, May 13, 2010
Article comment by: Bill


SHAME ON YOU TOO Lakeland Times! It's bad enough these two idiots were caught cheating on their families. The victims in this are their children and families. Your appeal to purient interests by graphically dislosing details will only cause further ridicule for the children of these two. She should have quietly resigned and the Times should have used better journalistic taste and judgment.


Posted: Thursday, May 13, 2010
Article comment by: tony

tax payer, don't you see? "tony" is fictional i'm really yuor old english teacher seeing if you remember after those less straight C's you used to get, GOOD JOB!!!!

Posted: Wednesday, May 12, 2010
Article comment by: ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

I agree with you JD!! This paper has lacked class in the past but they've stooped lower then usual. There were many innocent family members hurt by this incident and you have just increased the pain for the families! Congrats!

Posted: Wednesday, May 12, 2010
Article comment by: tax payer

Tony,

You may have a point but I'm sure your teens already know what oral sex is! Maybe you should start with editing your own comments by using punctuation (?) and an adverb (too) instead of a preposition (to).


Posted: Wednesday, May 12, 2010
Article comment by: Ewwww

OK, waaayyyy too much information.

Posted: Wednesday, May 12, 2010
Article comment by: JD

Maybe you could just rename the paper The Lakeland Good Times. "Nothng musch was happening at the courthouse UNTIL the brawny detecive with the rippling muscles took another sip of his beer at the Christmas Party and saw the blurry eyes of the court clerk as she stumbled towards the mop closet...or as she would later think of it...their own Fortress od Solitude...." You guys kill me.

Posted: Wednesday, May 12, 2010
Article comment by: tony

I am very disturbed by the the writing of this article.Does anyone edit at the Times. The wording is way to graphic you can get your point across without making it sound like pornography. My teenage kids read your paper,well not anymore.

Posted: Tuesday, May 11, 2010
Article comment by: tax payer

yuck



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